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30-01-2008, 07:34 AM
Put this where you like Sherrie (yes, probably not in a thread from some unsuspecting Optifast refugee!) but I thought you guys might be interested in a bit of the history posted by Mike Eades today;
Can't wait for the next instalment!!
30-01-2008, 09:03 AM
looking forward to the next installment - interesting read
30-01-2008, 09:18 AM
Ooooh, looking forward to the next bit!! What a good read.:)
30-01-2008, 11:00 AM
Put this where you like Sherrie (yes, probably not in a thread from some unsuspecting Optifast refugee!)
LOL you've got such a way with words :D
30-01-2008, 01:17 PM
LOL doesn't change at all what I think, heck if they were so ideal why doesn't he have a new thin so fast book instead of protein power, maybe even sell his own shake mix in his shop seeing it is such a money spinner?
All the studies I saw that were funded by people with a vested interest seemed to say they were safe to me and the smaller ones that weren't said different.
30-01-2008, 04:18 PM
I think the thing I admire most about Mike is he is not afraid to admit when he is wrong or (as I think in this case) he is always open to better ways of doing things, as well as new ideas and research. Low carb gurus and converts alike are certainly not immune from the sort of narrow minded obsession we deride in the low fat (and GI!) community - in fact it is possible they are even more prone to this, so I think the Eades are a refreshing exception. Given that, it would be interesting to know if he was still in private practice whether he would recommend shakes for weight loss in any circumstance (rather than for things like gut rehab) - and if so what sort of recipe/macronutrient ratio he would now recommend (no milk powder you could bet on that!) as well as how many calories - or whether he would simply recommend one of the 3 approaches suggested in PPLP. I guess from a GP/bariatric specialist's perspective it is all about the patient's best health option and for some people, at least starting on a shake based program may represent the best chance of success, particularly for the morbidly obese whose health may be at greater risk if some sort of drastic response is not only implemented, but sustained.
I know there is a lot of negative research - but AFAIK it all revolves around ultra low calories and/or decidedly unhealthy ingredients ... I guess all I would suggest, is that this doesn't have to be the case and at least in some cases with a more considered approach, the end may justify the means - especially when a healthy, real food, low carb maintenance program is the end result.
31-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Come on you guys!
Sure those yanks outnumber us, but if we get organised we can do this!
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