HI All

[annie111]

:DHi everyone, what a lovely site this is firstly, so much information, and everyone is so friendly. My husband is doing atkins as he needs to lose 20 to 30 kilo's, Im also over weight and need to lose around 20 kilo's. My husband is fine with the concept of atkins but because im diabetic with also high cholesterol im concerned about the health affects of eating eggs etc,plus im not a creative person in the kitchen lol Im trying hard tho. We are also from adelaide \0/ and i lok forward to trying and maybe inventing my own low carb recipes thanks for reading

regards Annette

[Malcolm]

Hi Annette,

As a diabetic the health benefits of eating a low carb diet far outweigh those associated with weight loss ... but you can have both! I'd be interested in what you consider to be "high" cholesterol, but note even the Heart Foundation has belatedly given eggs their 'tick' of approval (they have finally recognised that dietary intake of cholesterol is not the issue ... well sort of!:p

Let us know what sort of medication you are on (if any) and maybe post some menus so we can get you on the road to better health as soon as!:)

Cheers,

Malcolm

[Sherrie]

Hey Annie!!!

Yay another one from Adelaide :)

I posted a couple of abstracts I found recently that study the consumption of eggs on a low carbohydrate diet, you will find them here: Low Carb Research (http://www.apinchofhealth.com/resources/lowcarb/low-carb-research.html) Just scroll down until you come to the heading "Low Carbohydrate Diets and Eggs"

I am not a doctor and nothing here should ever be considered as medical advice but personally I do not think low carb and eggs should be a problem and plenty of low carb doctors seem to agree with this. Have you read any low carb books like Atkins or Protein Power?

Also try a search here on cholesterol, I am pretty sure there has been some good articles or links to such articles on this posted one time or another.

Welcome aboard :)

[melvan]

Hi Annie, welcome :)

The Adelaideans are taking over!!!

[annie111]

Hi Annette,

As a diabetic the health benefits of eating a low carb diet far outweigh those associated with weight loss ... but you can have both! I'd be interested in what you consider to be "high" cholesterol, but note even the Heart Foundation has belatedly given eggs their 'tick' of approval (they have finally recognised that dietary intake of cholesterol is not the issue ... well sort of!:p

Let us know what sort of medication you are on (if any) and maybe post some menus so we can get you on the road to better health as soon as!:)

Cheers,

Malcolm

HI Malcolm, I do not need to take medication at this point, i get it checked every 3 or so months my reading are not that high really, at last reading my cholesterol was around 6.6 which they stated is too high for a diabetic. I lost weight watching what i ate, low fat and i was doing really well, then its like a button turned off and i have been eating everything in site cakes and all, and ive never been a cake eater ever. I do how ever suffer depression and have been very emotional lately with family issues so that could be a part of it. Im just so overwhelmed i dont know where to start with it all. thanks for reading my rantings, regards Annette

[annie111]

Hi Sherrie,
Thank you for replying . I have booked marked that link and yes i think im going to get more knowledge about it all, its hard to think differently sometimes as we dont always look outside of the box, one thing im finding is a lot of things ive never heard of , do you buy a lot of ingredients in supermarkets or healthshops or other shops? sheesh some i cant even pronounce lol, i gues it gets easier thank you once again im sure i will learn heaps here in your forum


regards Annette

[annie111]

Hi Melvan, thank you for the warm welcome yes the south aussies are gaining


regards Annette

[Malcolm]

We like ranting here!;) (not that you were - but practice makes perfect!).

A low carb can be a step towards controling bingeing and may also help with depression. Like Sherrie I am not a doctor but I am always itching to interfere/help when someone receives advice like you have. First of all cholesterol (especially a single/total figure) is a useless indicator of the risk of heart disease - people with CHD are about equally split between those with high cholesterol and those with 'normal' to low cholesterol. Your 6.6 figure is within the range that used to be called "normal" before drug companies interfered in the setting of guidelines ... so that they could sell more drugs.:mad:

The other thing is that you have been given specific advice "for a diabetic". In other words you need to take even more heed of the (baseless) advice on cholesterol because you are a diabetic. Diabetes 'experts' do this. Why? Well those with poorly controlled diabetes have a higher rate of many diseases (including CHD). You would think then the priority would be to ensure that your blood glucose and insulin levels were kept in the low/normal range to avoid raising your risk, wouldn't you? But no, 'they' assume you won't do this, so they give up and just try to stave off the side effects with (unbelievably shonky) advice on cholesterol and fat intake.

Now ... that was a rant!

My unqualified, but undoubtedly better researched than most doctor's advice:p would be to focus on keeping your BG as low as possible (without venturing into hypoglycemic territory) and the way to do that is by strictly restricting your carb intake ... and this will help you control hunger driven binges (making it easier to isolate and deall with the emotional eating issues) and lose weight as well!

Do you mind me asking what your normal fasting BG is? Do you have a regular HBA1c? If so details please!

Stick with us. You (and your husband) are in the right place.:)

[DOINGIT]

hey welcome just read and read and read more until you feel comfortable.

I started with bg at 10.... 10kg and 6 months later it was 4 and now 20kg and 2.5 years later it is still 4 so there you are. My PB is a bit of a prob as it is heriditary but that also has improved. I can assure you that we would eat about 1 to 1.5 dozen eggs a week, lots of butter and coconut oil, masses of lc green vegs, and other great vegs. Lamb shanks in curry are a special and teh faty yum is diving. Roast pork with crackle is marvelous. Roasted veges ie zuccini, eggplant, capsicum, squash etc are delish and I make double to have as a roast veg salad next day with fetta chees.
these are just some little things that took me ages to "allow" myself to eat as I had been a weight watcher all my life on and off.
For instance today I had a huge salad of tomato, beanshoots, capsicum, spanish onion, lebo cucumber, boiled egg and shredded chicken. Drizzeled with balsamic vinegar and olive oil.
I have put on a couple of kg and inend to remove it over the next 2 weeks while I am working full time.
If I could get my head around it you will... just give it time!

[Sherrie]

Hey Annie make sure to pop in the diabetic forum we have here there's a thread that I started there where folk like yourselves can introduce yourselves so you can get a feel for whom are in a similar situation as yourself.

With cholesterol, from what I have read it is my understanding that the less we eat the more cholesterol our bodies tend to make and hence why a lot of doctors/researchers feel that dietary cholesterol is not a problem. Another thing to consider is low cholesterol is associated with depression which I assume is because cholesterol is used in the making of serotonin. Personally,I am thinking that trying to strictly lower cholesterol is probably a bad idea.

Also how old are you, women tend to have higher cholesterol when they are older, personally I like to think of it as anti-aging :)

I like to think of cholesterol as more of a symptom of something (good or bad) rather then being a cause in itself.

[annie111]

We like ranting here!;) (not that you were - but practice makes perfect!).

A low carb can be a step towards controling bingeing and may also help with depression. Like Sherrie I am not a doctor but I am always itching to interfere/help when someone receives advice like you have. First of all cholesterol (especially a single/total figure) is a useless indicator of the risk of heart disease - people with CHD are about equally split between those with high cholesterol and those with 'normal' to low cholesterol. Your 6.6 figure is within the range that used to be called "normal" before drug companies interfered in the setting of guidelines ... so that they could sell more drugs.:mad:

The other thing is that you have been given specific advice "for a diabetic". In other words you need to take even more heed of the (baseless) advice on cholesterol because you are a diabetic. Diabetes 'experts' do this. Why? Well those with poorly controlled diabetes have a higher rate of many diseases (including CHD). You would think then the priority would be to ensure that your blood glucose and insulin levels were kept in the low/normal range to avoid raising your risk, wouldn't you? But no, 'they' assume you won't do this, so they give up and just try to stave off the side effects with (unbelievably shonky) advice on cholesterol and fat intake.

Now ... that was a rant!

My unqualified, but undoubtedly better researched than most doctor's advice:p would be to focus on keeping your BG as low as possible (without venturing into hypoglycemic territory) and the way to do that is by strictly restricting your carb intake ... and this will help you control hunger driven binges (making it easier to isolate and deall with the emotional eating issues) and lose weight as well!

Do you mind me asking what your normal fasting BG is? Do you have a regular HBA1c? If so details please!

Stick with us. You (and your husband) are in the right place.:)



Well malcolm you do leave me well behind in the ranting are you on a debating team? you would win for sure!
my normal bg level for fasting is around 5.5 to 5.7 never higher than that. I dont understand what HBA1c is? my doctor to this day has not taken it very seriously and stated check every few months,he retired a few months ago Iguess Ishould re check my levels over all?Ihad gt diabete's with the last two of my children, not the first two stange?

[annie111]

Hi doingit, thank you for telling me thatIguess Its hard to change after you think low fat is better for you! and i loveeeeeeeeeee roast pork hehehe I think I love the crackling more! I look forward to talking to everyone more

regards Annette

[annie111]

Well sherrie, Im 42 yrs young lol, and thanks for the info about the diabetic section , Ive had a quick read thru it and there is some awesome info



regards Annette

[DOINGIT]

annie go make a diary it is the best way to keep track!!

[annie111]

annie go make a diary it is the best way to keep track!!



:D well doingit let me ask you a really stupid question from someone new lol how do you make one?

[Malcolm]

Well malcolm you do leave me well behind in the ranting are you on a debating team? you would win for sure!
my normal bg level for fasting is around 5.5 to 5.7 never higher than that. I dont understand what HBA1c is? my doctor to this day has not taken it very seriously and stated check every few months,he retired a few months ago Iguess Ishould re check my levels over all?Ihad gt diabete's with the last two of my children, not the first two stange?

Debate team? - nah, I'm just an amateur!:p

Sounds like your doctor should have retired some time ago, but never mind, hopefully your new doc will be slightly more enlightened. A HbA1c (or just A1c) is a glycated haemoglobin test. In a nutshell having elevated blood glucose causes damage to protein structures in the body. This test is useful because it looks at the damage specifically done to the red blood cells - and as redblood cells have a life cycle of 2 - 3 months, testing their level of damage (glycation) gives a pretty accurate indication of your blood sugar control over that period. Ask your new doc ... if s/he looks puzzled, shoot him/her!

5.5 - 5.7 fasting is ok for a diabetic (here we accept the 'normal' figure which is low to mid 4s) but could be better - and here lower really is better. And getting this under control, and particularly avoiding the post meal highs (which incidentally make you hungry after they finally but inevitably crash ... which makes you want to eat more ...:rolleyes:) is where a low carb diet really shines - it will fix all of that!

I agree with the suggestion you read as much as possible so that you are comfortable with the health benefits of eating this way, and have as much info as possible as to how to do it properly ... but ask lots of questions too!
The guru when it comes to diabetes is a guy called Richard Bernstein (http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/) but make sure you take in at least one of the low carb authors as well (Atkins or the Eades (Protein Power) are the most popular)

[DOINGIT]

go to the top level of the site and then scroll down till you find
Members diary
open up and then start a new thread calling it what ever you feel reflects how you are:

for instance mine is
Bron's Journey Journal Raving Page !!
Ok

[annie111]

:D ta doingit i will def give it a go today or tomorrow

regards Annette

[Snez]

Welcome Annette!

[annie111]

:D ta snez for the welcome, Im pretty sure im going to learn a lot here

regards Annette

[Moonie]

Hi Annie, welcome to the forum..

[kimme]

Welcome Annie, this is a great forum, hope you get alot out of it.

Kim

[annie111]

:D HI Moonstruck & kimme,
thank you for the welcome, i have already got so much out of the forum, i look forward to getting to know everyone


regards Annette

[Shez]

Hi Annette - welcome from me too:) I am also diabetic and had GT with my last 2 pregnancies. I am 43 so we seem to have a bit in common. I have treated my diabetes very successfully with LC and now don't take any meds at all.
I love this forum and I'm sure you will find it great too!!

[annie111]

:D hi shez, great you are doing so well with your diabete"s on lc, IM off to my doc friday to get all my levels check so i can record the changes over a time, ive also tried a few lc recipes and find im really liking them and i dont crave sugar much with them , Im still eating some carbs at the moment but i plan to do induction in the next week or two, I guess im a little scared to try my will power is not my biggest thing lately, but in reality ive nothing left to lose, except weight i guess:confused: yes we do have a few things in common, Im 42 with 2 pregancies with gd, i carry my weight around my tummy so i perm look pregnant:o thanks for listening


regards Annette

[Sherrie]

Annie low carb works the best for android body shapes (fat around tummy).

[annie111]

Hi sherrie I guess thats what i need then ive a lot to lose there, being only 5 ft is terrible for showing things up:D

regards Annette

[Shez]

Yep most of my weight is around the tummy too:mad: I have the skinniest little ankles and wrists so i know how slim I should really be

[kimme]

I can sympathise wholeheartedly, I'm only 160 cm tall and am carrying most of my weight around the middle. :( Is this an age thing do you think?? I'm turning 42 this year.

Kim

[Sherrie]

Kimme you could pretty much say its called metabolic syndrome!!!

[kimme]

I won't disagree with you there Sherrie.

[annie111]

Yep most of my weight is around the tummy too:mad: I have the skinniest little ankles and wrists so i know how slim I should really be


:eek:
Hi shez, yeah im afraid im in your group big tummy little chicken legs lol hope one day i will be the person i know i am inside, how are you finding low carb eating? is it helping with the tummy?


regards Annette:D

[annie111]

I can sympathise wholeheartedly, I'm only 160 cm tall and am carrying most of my weight around the middle. :( Is this an age thing do you think?? I'm turning 42 this year.

Kim

:eek: Hi Kimme,
Is it possible someone is shorter than me!!!!!!!, the trouble with being shorter is the fact every bit of extra weight shows, and you wear bigger clother just to fit around the middle, but by the end of the year i will be healthier and the bonus skinnier to wear a pair of jeans! oh yeah. thank you everyone for the support, its amazing how strangers can give you so much more support than family and some friends:D.

[Shez]

how are you finding low carb eating? is it helping with the tummy?
Yep it is certainly helping the tummy :D I've lost over 8 kgs since starting LC and most of that has come of the middle. At my last measurment day (about a fortnight ago) I had lost over 22 cms with 6 of those coming off my waist. I have also dropped a whole dress size.
Seems we have pretty much the same amount of weight to lose too.

[Sherrie]

Girls trust me nothing will get rid of tummy fat better then LC. Put it this way, how many diabetics (type 2) do you know with the andriod/apple shape and how many with Pear?

I remember my mum was checked for diabetes 2 once simply because she was an apple.

[Shez]

I know Sherrie - I'm living proof of it. Speaking of which I have my Dr's appointment in a couple of hours - can't wait to see what he has to say. Sorry, starting to hijack this thread now - I will be sure to post results in the other thread when I get back

[annie111]

hi sherry, yes after all my researching im starting to believe that, ive really cut down carbs otherwise when i start induction i know it will be too hard, today for the first time in history i bypassed the pepsi max and had water instead, that is a huge huge step for me right there, thanks for listening mate! and shez good luck with you doc today i will be very interested to hear how it goes, and thats awesome girl 8 kg's of tummy you go girl:D


Annette

[Sherrie]

You're welcome :)

Shez updated us in her diary, shes off to her mums to stay overnight so was in a rush, her results were really great, check it out :)

[kimme]

Annette 160 cm equates to around 5ft3in in the old scale.
I'm glad that you are seeing the benefits of LC, it definitely works, just takes organisation!
Kim

[annie111]

Annette 160 cm equates to around 5ft3in in the old scale.
I'm glad that you are seeing the benefits of LC, it definitely works, just takes organisation!
Kim


:D hiya kimme, thanks for replying, yes i feel some benifets of Lc, not that im carb free but i have cut down a lot of carbs. shoot im still shorter than you, im just 5 ft oh well ! lol


regards Annette:rolleyes: