The Tony Ferguson Diet - Tony Ferguson Weightloss Program

[damsel]

and another:

1000-1200 is the correct amount of calories consumed, there was a notice some time last year explaining this, found it, here it is......

Hi All,



It’s just me again! I can see that a lot of you are confused about the energy contribution of the Tony Ferguson program. I can tell you that the energy is 1000-1200 calories (4000-5000kJ) per day. This value will be changed on the website as soon as possible, sorry about any confusion this has caused.



For those of you who are worried about what to eat etc its ok. Nothing in the eating plan has changed you are still having the 2 sachets per day, the protein meal at night, all the vegetables and the 2 pieces of fruit. This value has been increased for quite a while it was simply not updated on the site.



This calorie value was calculated on the average TF participant. Therefore the fruit has been included, in addition a few cups of tea or decaf coffee per day, some sauces and gravies, the diet jelly and accounting for the use of diet cordials and lollies. I have calculated the energy for a normal day on the program.



SAMPLE PLAN (for a woman)



BREAKFAST – 1 TF sachet = 852kJ/ 203 calories

MORNING TEA – 1 apple = 230kJ/ 55 calories

LUNCH – 1 TF sachet = 852kJ/ 203 calories

- 2 cups lettuce = 60kJ/ 14 calories

- 1 tomato = 60kJ/ 14 calories

- ½ sml Lebanese cucumber = 20kJ/ 5 calories

- ¼ sml onion = 16 kJ/ 4 calories

- 1 Tbsp allowed salad dressing = 58 kJ

AFTERNOON TEA – 1 orange = 300kJ/ 73 calories

DINNER – 120g lean beef steak = 995kJ/ 238 calories

- ½ cup green beans = 50kJ/ 12 calories

- ½ cup cauliflower = 79kJ/ 19 calories

- ½ sml zucchini = 27kJ/ 6 calories

- 3 florets broccoli = 100kJ/ 24 calories

- ½ sml carrot = 50kJ/ 24 calories

- 1 tsp garlic = 12kJ/ 3 calories

- 1 Tbsp light soy sauce = 38kJ/ 9 calories



EXTRAS – 2 cups tea with 1 Tbsp low fat milk in each = 126kJ/ 30 calories

- 250mL diet jelly (1/2 sachet) = 76kJ/ 18 calories

- 5 Sugar Free lollies = 215kJ/ 51 cal

- 1 tsp olive oil = 336kJ/ 80 calories



TOTAL ENERGY = 4552 KJ/ 1088 CALORIES



I obtained the values for this plan from the Women’s Weekly Fat and Kilojoule counter. Remember there are slight deviations in kJ/calorie allocation between each and every counter but they are all relatively similar. For men, they would be having double the protein serve of a woman so they would be adding an extra say 1000kJ/ 240 calories to their allowance bringing them upto approximately 5000kj/1200 calories per day.



Nothing in this plan should be a ‘new’ food or something you didn’t know about. We always encourage the fruit and the reason it is optional is due to the fact some people don’t like it, they are not that hungry or they are unable to fit it into the program (maybe they don’t get breaks at work etc). Fruit IS included in the plan for the nutritional value and the fact that we encourage you to eat small meals frequently throughout the day, and the fruit allows you to do that. From my experience the majority of people on the program enjoy having that salad with their sachet at lunch time (or now the veggies with their soup!) which is the reason we have included that in our calculation.



If you were to look in your weight management book on page 8, you would see our suggested daily meal plan which includes the food I have listed above. I hope this helps to make things a bit clearer. As a few of you have mentioned, you have chosen to omit the fruit or the extra vegetables and that is your choice just know that we have not deceived you in any way and we are happy to clear up any discrepancies in the information you have been given. Also know that choosing to not have these foods will not be dangerous to your health or detrimental to the program.



Don’t stress about the calorie counting, we have done that for you which is the beauty of this program. No counting calories, no weighing of foods these are the reasons why people love this program so much. If you follow the suggestions we have made in the book you will reach the required amount of calories. Just keep doing what you are doing and do not be scared off or needlessly worried about these issues which have been raised recently. Be assured that we at Tony Ferguson regard your health as a priority, and we would never put it at a risk.



Thanks again & hope this helps (:



Sarah – Tony Ferguson Nutritionist

[damsel]

& more

I noticed the wording on the welcome page has changed. VLCD changed to LCD and "ketogenic principal" changed to "the natural process of ketosis".

The bottom line has also changed from "this diet has been medically approved" to "This diet is recommended by many doctors, and other health care professionals".

I know some questions were being asked a while back, so this might be the outcome.

[damsel]

there's heaps more if you want it

There's also a few posts on gallstones ....

[Sherrie]

I am pretty sure it was after they first changed it when I added it all up based on their food lists etc (I think it is page 1 of this thread). What I got was just over 800 calories or definitely under 900 calories but there was still room for that to be lower. Most VLCD's sit under 800 calories but some studies I have looked at refer to anything below 1000 calories. How much do your shakes work out to be on the label? are they still sitting on 200 calories? Low calorie diets are generally 1000-1500 calories but as I said alot consider anything over 800 LCD.

I did find a study that found LCD are still a risk factor for gallstones but it was lower risk then VLCD. Also rapid weight loss on its own is a big risk factor so if you are losing weight rapidly on an LCD then your risks would be high. They don't always make themselves known during the diet sometimes they appear after.

So whenever you start increasing fat from a low fat diet do it gradually.

One study I was looking at recommended to have a minimum of 10g of fat with each meal to stimulate gall bladder emptying. Also make sure you don't skip breakfast as extending the overnight fast is also a big risk factor. Butter (real butter not margarine) is a good choice, so is fish oil.

Don't be afraid to add more fat then that if your calories are really low or your losing weight too fast, just up it gradually.

[damsel]

The shake is 853kj

I usually have a teaspoon of butter (not margarine) with my vegies everyday

Plus I take flaxseed oil, evening primrose oil, fishoil & a multi vitamin everyday

[Sherrie]

Sounds like they are trying to be careful now

It can still easily be a VLCD depending on what the individual chooses to eat but these same risks with the calorie level of VLCD come with rapid weight loss as well.

[Sherrie]

Sorry my replies are so sporadic, I had to take the kids to the doctors after my first reply, then dinner, Idol and House

I have a little problem with what I have quoted below:

As a few of you have mentioned, you have chosen to omit the fruit or the extra vegetables and that is your choice just know that we have not deceived you in any way and we are happy to clear up any discrepancies in the information you have been given. Also know that choosing to not have these foods will not be dangerous to your health or detrimental to the program.

Don’t stress about the calorie counting, we have done that for you which is the beauty of this program. No counting calories, no weighing of foods these are the reasons why people love this program so much. If you follow the suggestions we have made in the book you will reach the required amount of calories. Just keep doing what you are doing and do not be scared off or needlessly worried about these issues which have been raised recently. Be assured that we at Tony Ferguson regard your health as a priority, and we would never put it at a risk.

for me, I find that careless, reason being is say you skip the veggies and fruit and you just have the shakes and protein which is 203 cal for breaky, 203 for lunch then what 200-250 cal for dinner?

That is 606-656 calories right there, definately a VLCD then. Fruit and veggies aren't high in calories so even with them it still can be a VLCD.

[LC_Dave]

Welcome to the forum Damsel!

[damsel]

Hi Dave - thanks

Sherrie - yes I agree with what you are saying & I do understand. But they've put a product out there with instructions on how to use it. It's up to the user to follow it to the instructions. It's no different to any other product that comes with instructions.

If it's x amount of calories if followed in this way - then follow it that way. Otherwise expect to get sick

I don't see that the product is at fault in this case

[Sherrie]

But then they give such advice as:

Also know that choosing to not have these foods will not be dangerous to your health or detrimental to the program.

So, to me I find lots of contradictions.

[damsel]

awwwww I forgot House was on last nite

[Sherrie]

It was the final episode too!

But good news, the next season starts this October!

[damsel]

that's not much of a gap is it .... I'll see if my gf recorded it

[Sherrie]

We get to see it when America see it now because apparently people have been buying/pirating the dvds when they come out in the US which is before it airs here or something like that lol.

[melvan]

Probably they do what I was doing with Gilmore Girls & Veronica Mars (till they both got cancelled )...download the torrent version and watch it on the computer.