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    • Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      I thought it would be a good idea if we had a thread here where everyone with Diabetes can chuck in a quick post saying hi for a couple of reasons.

      Firstly, to make it easier for you to find others in the same boat as you but secondly so newcomers with diabetes looking at treating it with low carb can easily find others more experienced. E.g. by checking here they can then go on to find their diaries and/or search for their posts and have a read.
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    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Hi My name is Dave and I have type 2 diabetes and hyperinsulinism.

      I guess when eat low carb (30-40 grams a day) I don't have diaebetes.

      Currently I don't see a doctor for this, because it's under control when I eat low carb. I am trying to lose weigt which also helps.
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Hey Dave, I didn't know you were a diabetic. When did you get the diagnosis? Did you get to do a GTT? Did your doc actually take insulin readings at the same time (if so he/she is a keeper!). What sort of fasting levels and A1Cs do you get when you are low carbing ... which is all the time right??;)
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    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Malcolm wrote:

      Hey Dave, I didn't know you were a diabetic. When did you get the diagnosis? Did you get to do a GTT? Did your doc actually take insulin readings at the same time (if so he/she is a keeper!). What sort of fasting levels and A1Cs do you get when you are low carbing ... which is all the time right??;)



      I haven't been diagnosed...because I haven't been to a doctor. (I know - controversial).

      I have certain symptoms that came up when I went off plan that are consistant with diabetes. Cracked skin etc. Also 'cheating' with carbs started to give me a different experience than usual. I started to feel really crappy, and feet and hands would go numb. Also thing slike Atkins bars really affect me know, causing periods of low blood sugar.

      The signs are definately there.

      I've had hyperinsulin for years of course (again not diagnosed - do they even diagnose that these days??)


      To me, when I stay on plan (no cheats), the symptoms are not there.

      I know the solution, I'm focussing on that.

      If I go to a doctor I will be pressured into low fat diets and medication.
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Here is a question...... if I know all these things, do I need to get a doctor to diagnose me?

      If I know the solution, then I should do it. Lose weight, exercise, eat low carb.

      I'm not saying everyone should do this, just in my case.....

      What will the doctors do? Charge me lots of money to do tests.

      Prescribe medication, tell me to exercise and lose weight??

      If I can control it without medication by doing low carb, then that's my solution.
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      I dunno, its only blood tests which should be covered by medicare? Sure you might have to pay a $20 gap for the initial doctor visit but I think it would be worth knowing how bad I was. Plus, then you can monitor it and see how much it improves and you will see if thing slowly get worse. If you don't monitor it, it could get worse so gradually that you don't pick up on it.
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    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Sherrie wrote:

      I dunno, its only blood tests which should be covered by medicare? Sure you might have to pay a $20 gap for the initial doctor visit but I think it would be worth knowing how bad I was. Plus, then you can monitor it and see how much it improves and you will see if thing slowly get worse. If you don't monitor it, it could get worse so gradually that you don't pick up on it.



      Now that I am aware of it, I am monitoring via 'feelings' and my intake.

      I notice more the different ways food affects me.

      I'm focussing on the solution,....... but I will preface this if I have complications of whatever nature, I will be visiting the doctors and handing over money.
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Here is a question...... if I know all these things, do I need to get a doctor to diagnose me?

      If I know the solution, then I should do it. Lose weight, exercise, eat low carb.

      I'm not saying everyone should do this, just in my case.....

      What will the doctors do? Charge me lots of money to do tests.

      Prescribe medication, tell me to exercise and lose weight??

      If I can control it without medication by doing low carb, then that's my solution


      Well if you were in Canada they'd give you a fasting glucose test, maybe a fasting insulin if you were lucky, and then tell you to eat a low fat, high carb diet. And lose weight.

      A friend of mine, who had gestational diabetes twice, and went in with a HgA1c of 5.6 ended up with fasting sugars of 7.2 and her HgA1c shot up to 6.2 - under the care of metabolic specialists, in the course of six months. They put her on Xenical. Yes, Xenical.

      When she asked for Metformin and a glucose / insulin challenge they told her "That's just for diabetics. You aren't a diabetic. Yet".

      Chances are you wouldn't get the right tests (3 hour glucose challenge with Insulin drawn each time) and HgA1c every three months. Nor would you be told the right way to eat.

      Call me jaded but you're better off on your own, Dave.
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Unblogger wrote:


      Call me jaded but you're better off on your own, Dave.


      I don't think that's a jaded comment:) After 3 pregnancies (diagnosed as GT in the last 2) and then a few years later Type 2 diabetes, I can honestly say I think I know better how to treat myself than the 'professionals".
      I have had insulin delivered via drip, injection and tablet form all the while following the supposedly correct high carb, low fat approach. All the time my BSL were just getting worse. Yes, I have had a GTT and I got my bloods checked every 3 months.
      The best I have ever felt is right now that I'm not taking the meds and not seeing the Dr :D
      I do have my own BSL machine and check them regularly though and have every intention of going and getting my next lot of tests done, just so I can show the Dr:p




      "The most important person to be honest with is yourself"
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Yes, I think that is the point Dave - jaded or not, knowledge is power and as for most people until your blood sugar is really high there will be no symptoms (which is why a big percentage of type 2s go undiagnosed for years) the first priority is to be able to test yourself to control your blood sugar effectively (yes, even low carbing diabetics need to do this). Now you can buy yourself a relatively cheap blood sugar tester - which provides a quick, easy and relatively painless result ;). But sadly in Australia (unless the new government has seen the light) you will pay about four times as much for the test strips if you do not have a form filled out by your doc saying you are a diabetic. Yes, I know this is crazy - but strangely Tony Abbott didn't reply to my email complimenting him on his 'enlightened' approach to preventative medicine:rolleyes: perhaps I need to try Jenny Macklin.

      So, my 2 cents would be - get yourself tested - get a diagnosis - and then tell your doc you will manage things with diet. You never know you might convert another of the terminally bewildered ... or if not, who cares? - you are the customer, so you can take or leave their advice as you see fit.

      Either way, there is a lot of evidence that lower blood sugar is better (even within the so called 'normal' range)*. So for anyone, regardless of diagnosis it pays to keep a close eye on how you respond - the only difference is you have the opportunity to do it much cheaper than I do!:)

      *Nice paper about one aspect of this here;

      care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/29/1/26

      (- more important than monitoring cholesterol?? I'm :eek:ed :p)

      Cheers,


      Malcolm
      Started LC (PP) Dec 2003
      114/86.5/85
      BF 30+/17/15
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Well this is an interesting thread! I'm quite sure I don't have diabetes as such- my fasting blood/insulin test was normal, but I'm sure I've been have hypoglycemia symptoms (dizzy, foggy head, cold sweats with hunger) Since I started eating low carb the symptoms have gone completely! :D

      I've been eating Atkins for a while now but this week I have just changed over to PP having just finished reading the PP book. :) I think PP is better in that the protein & carbs are spread more evenly throughout the day in controlled amounts! ;)

      My Doc said that if the fasting tests were normal then I don't have a problem- but it would have been a good idea to do a glucose tolerance test I think. Anyway I am now absolutely convinced that low carb is definitely the way to go so I'm going to stick with that! :)
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Shez wrote:

      I don't think that's a jaded comment:) After 3 pregnancies (diagnosed as GT in the last 2) and then a few years later Type 2 diabetes, I can honestly say I think I know better how to treat myself than the 'professionals".
      I have had insulin delivered via drip, injection and tablet form all the while following the supposedly correct high carb, low fat approach. All the time my BSL were just getting worse. Yes, I have had a GTT and I got my bloods checked every 3 months.
      The best I have ever felt is right now that I'm not taking the meds and not seeing the Dr :D
      I do have my own BSL machine and check them regularly though and have every intention of going and getting my next lot of tests done, just so I can show the Dr:p



      You see this is what I mean, do your GTTs but don't follow their advice, the only way they will learn is if we keep jamming it in their faces!

      PS: I am not implying I have D2 when I say "we" just figure of speech :)
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    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      slimgran wrote:

      Well this is an interesting thread! I'm quite sure I don't have diabetes as such- my fasting blood/insulin test was normal, but I'm sure I've been have hypoglycemia symptoms (dizzy, foggy head, cold sweats with hunger) Since I started eating low carb the symptoms have gone completely! :D

      I've been eating Atkins for a while now but this week I have just changed over to PP having just finished reading the PP book. :) I think PP is better in that the protein & carbs are spread more evenly throughout the day in controlled amounts! ;)

      My Doc said that if the fasting tests were normal then I don't have a problem- but it would have been a good idea to do a glucose tolerance test I think. Anyway I am now absolutely convinced that low carb is definitely the way to go so I'm going to stick with that! :)


      Hey SG - glad to hear you another PP convert!:) It was Mike who put me onto the paper I posted for Dave above - he also commented about it in his blog at the time;

      proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/the-sugar-hypothesis/

      Any progress with your acid reflux?

      Cheers,

      Malcolm
      Started LC (PP) Dec 2003
      114/86.5/85
      BF 30+/17/15
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Thanks guys. Yeah Malcolm, I will look into testing myself reguarly. It's all hit me all of a sudden, and I have to take control of this.

      I've also found that I have reactions now to low carb bars, chcolate etc?

      Anyone else find they cause issues with blood sugar? As in hypoglycemia or whatever?
    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      slimgran wrote:

      Well this is an interesting thread! I'm quite sure I don't have diabetes as such- my fasting blood/insulin test was normal, but I'm sure I've been have hypoglycemia symptoms (dizzy, foggy head, cold sweats with hunger) Since I started eating low carb the symptoms have gone completely! :D

      I've been eating Atkins for a while now but this week I have just changed over to PP having just finished reading the PP book. :) I think PP is better in that the protein & carbs are spread more evenly throughout the day in controlled amounts! ;)

      My Doc said that if the fasting tests were normal then I don't have a problem- but it would have been a good idea to do a glucose tolerance test I think. Anyway I am now absolutely convinced that low carb is definitely the way to go so I'm going to stick with that! :)


      Slimgran (can I call you SG?), I agree I think a GTT would be interesting too!

      I have the pplp book but was already doing my own version of Atkins, after a while you find you just naturally do your own version of whatever diet your on based on what suits you plus we all find later when close to goal we need to have some idea/control on more then just the carb intake.
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    • Re: Do you have Diabetes? Come say Hello here!

      Yes Sherrie SG is fine (though I'm not slim yet, but I will be before long! ;) ) I'm finding that there is so much food to eat on PP :eek: -I suppose I have got use to starving myself over the years! :) I have been having 5 mini meals a day which add up to the recommended daily amount of protein/carbs that PP suggests for my height & weight. This suits me better- both hypoglycemia & reflux wise, & it isn't such a huge meal to eat at one sitting! ;)

      You are right though- we all find out what works best for us & fall into a routine I guess! Just have to keep away from that chocolate over Easter- not to mention those buns! :eek:
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      Just have to keep away from that chocolate over Easter- not to mention those buns!
      same here I'm a sucker for hot corss buns with heaps of butter..

      Did you see the sun rise show yesterday where they made a bread and butter pudding out of left over Hot cross buns.. *drool*

      the buns are bad enough, but putting white chocolate in the cuts made in the buns, then pouring a custard made from milk,eggs, full cream, castor sugar, and brandy essence over the buns, made them obsene!!! *drool*
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