Now as you all know I am not doing BT but I was having a look through the BT in a nutshell thread (as you do!) and I thought it looked familiar. I went and dug out my Protein Power book and IMHO I reckon they have just cannibalised PP and made it low fat instead of moderate fats and sold it with a big price to people desperate to lose.

Lots of the BT stuff is practically a mirror of what the Eades have to say in PP.

What's the print date on your Protein Power book?

February 1996

I ask, because BT is also very similar in many ways to the Dukhan diet, which also predates it, and apparently post-dates your Protein Power.

That said, all three post-date Atkins (1972), so probably stem from his research.

It seems the idea of the high protein/low carb diet has been around for a very long time, and is continually being reinvented.

Well, the first documented on is Banting, with his "Letter on Corpulence" in the UK back in 1862.

Th authors acknowledge LC researchers as far back as Frenchman Brillat-Savarin in 1825, it just struck m quit forcefully that the BT protein portions and numbers of meals & snacks closely resembles PP.

It may do. As I said, many 'new' research if often based on old. That doesn't make it any less valuable, though.

Oh, that's not supposed to be a defense of Bodytrim ... I'm actually getting quite jack of their money grubbing ways ... it's just a fact of life

Hey guys, I have a quick question.

As you are supposed to eat every 2 - 3 hours, is there any harm in eating more than the 3 meals and 3 snacks if you wake for a lot longer days? I sometimes do double split shifts and my days can be very long.

I'm guessing its better to eat rather than putting your body into starvation, just thought I would check

You *must* eat at least every 3 waking hours, but you're allowed to eat as often as an hour after you last ate, if you're hungry.

Snacks are also 50-100g, not just 50g.

So, if you've a long time between meals, or you get hungry, eat, as long as it's at least an hour since you last ate.

Oh great, I thought the hourly snacking was only allowed with the PO days and detox.

Thanks again.

BT uses typical bodybuilding principles but smaller protein sizes. From the frequent meals to the weekly carb ups, it's body building all over but with smaller carb ups, less calories and less exercise. And I don't think a body builder would put an obese person on carb ups (freedays) but instead introduce them later.

Getay everyone,
l lost 3 kilos in my first week--this is AMAZING!!!! for me. With all the diets l've tried this is the first time l've ever lost anything. Think the medications l'm on didn't help, but this time it's worked. Have been doing a bit of research on the internet, and high protein--low carb. makes sense. l've been eating the complete opposite for years--way too much carbohydrate, and, of course, l've got a sweet tooth as well. About to start cooking some of the yummy snacks and sweets l've found here--much cheaper than the 'bought' protein bars.
Just one thing--does anyone know how to transfer the weight ticker l'm using on the BT site--over to my profile?
Won't be staying with their BT forum as it's too expensive.
So good to finaly find 'food' that works for me instead of against me!!
Keep up the good work everyone.

Thanks for the info guys,

I will check out PP when I get a chance.... I have just followed BT from the info I have gained from this site... I refuse to pay for it, or the snacks etc that they are making money off. I lost 2.5kg in my first week... this is pretty standard for me, but week 2 will be the test because this is where I usually plateau for a while. If I lose this week I will be very pleased!

That is Amazing! Congratulations!! I think this 'way of living' work for most. We really don't been to eat a lot of carbs. Great effort! Keep it up..



I'm not sure what sort of ticker you are using on the BT forum, did you create it on the BT website or on a different ticker generating page?
If from a different page, you need to copy the "Http:// " code.
Until we are Members on this forum, we cannot have a signature (which is the easiest way to attach the ticker) but we can attach it as an image to each post. Hope this helps (and makes sense)

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I have just finished reading this whole thread and what and amazing bunch of people that started this thread and stuck to it the whole way through to their goals.

Really lovely, helpful people!

Hi, I am a newbie to this forum...

Did BT 2 yrs ago and lost 17kg.... then put 9 back on... been back on BT since October last year...
Starting weight last yr was 91.2kg.... got down to 82.6 by Christmas, but am now 83.7....

Wishing to get down to the 70's by Easter if possible... and down to my goal weight of 71 by mid year.....

Havent had a good year so far... still havent got down to 82.6! Argh!

cheers
ally

HI everyone,

I am on my 2nd day of detox !! Starting weight 74kg I want to loose at least 10 kg - so fingers crossed. Loved reading up about this diet so far and congrats to all the successes people are having!!:D

I have one problem which I hope someone can answer for me. I am living out in the Desert in WA which limits my access to some food types as we only have a small shop here

I have access to getting tinned tuna, eggs, meat and veg. My one major problem is I can only get full fat cottage and Ricotta Cheese up here until I actually get a chance to drive the 400km to the next major town where there will be a coles.:mad:

Is it ok to use these full fat versions for a few weeks or am I best not using them until I can get the low fat ones.:confused: There are some yummy recipes using these ingredients which I would love to make!!:p

Hopefully someone can answer me!! Thanks

Denmc - someone may correct me but I think the full fat versions of the Cottage & Ricotta Cheese are actually better because they have less carbs/sugar in them. It's hard to get out of the mind set of low fat food when you've been so used to it, but when you are eating less carbs you can tolerate a little more fat in your diet.

Puffenstuff is correct, full-fat versions of just about everything are actually better (despite what BT says) as they are almost always lower in carbs. And in the case of ricotta and cottage cheeses, the difference in fat quantity between the low-fat and regular versions is negligible anyway.

Thank you so much for the replies!! I just keep seeing low-fat ricotta and cottage cheese in the recipes so I worried a bit about it.

Cant wait to start using some of the receipts I have found on this site.:p

3rd day on detox and feeling really good and positive about it all.:o

Thanks again so much for your help and all the info everyone has put it - it is so reassuring and hekpful for any newbies:D

hi there everybody im a new user well good to know you can come here and get answereds back well im on day 3 po found it a lil hard first day second day was easier and today is my last day yayyyyy cant wait to taste the real food haha but can anybody tell me how long before you start to see weightloss ?