Insomnia and Body Trim

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    • Insomnia and Body Trim

      It is 1 am and I am awake. Again! Last few nights I went to bed - got up - went to bed - got up ... Dr told me to lay there for 20-30 minutes if I cannot sleep then get up for a while and then go back and try again.

      hmph

      Yes I do have loads going through my head, but even after I get up, write ideas and thoughts down and do the things I can just do I still cannot sleep. :confused:

      I can go for weeks like this then I am ok for a few nights or weeks then back to this . . . Dr gave me sleeping pills but I only take one when I have not slept at all for days and I am desperate to sleep. I hate them because I end up feeling groggy, headachy and am completely usless the next day, a complete right off. Sometimes I have even slept through the day and into the next night before waking up . . .

      Does not help the weight when I am awake so much because I would eat as well, usually bread. (my weakness)

      Now that I have started Body Trim I truely hope to get some relief from the insomnia. Do others have this problem because of health and weight or is it caused from something completely different?

      I presume that I should be keeping up with eating protein every 2-3 hours even though I am meant to be SLEEPING?

      I did not think about food last night and by 3am the stomach was growling. A bit weird for me because I do not often get hunger feelings, but that is another Thread! :rolleyes:

      Tonight / this morning I will have some protein every few hours and see how I go.

      I start seeing a physiologist next week. Hopefully she can help!?

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      You poor thing there is nothing worse than lying in bed trying to go to sleep & then that becomes a habit to wake up. It is a good idea to use the rowing machine when you wake up with the hope that it will tire you & hopefully break the habit of waking up. And make your subconscious realise that if you wake you will be punished by the rowing machine. Do you think you are doing enough exercise through the day to tire yourself out for bed & I suppose you have tried the hot milk - restful music & general relaxing wind down before bed. Don't have any caffeine from early afternoon. Good luck with BT & the physiologist.
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      Have you ever tried magnesium and Vitamin B5 supps to see if they help at all?

      Another thing is some people find they get insomnia on low carb, I don't see it so much here but I used to on US sites. Back many years ago when I used to check Dr Eades (Author of Protein Power) blog every now and again and I read him give advice to take a teaspoon of honey just before bed. Apparently that little carb hit helps with the initial falling asleep.
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      Is it that you can't get to sleep? Or that you fall asleep, then wake up?

      I can recommend some aromatherapy assistance for the first (and second) ... but if it's the second, you might want to look at why.

      I suffer from chronic sleep apnea. Getting that treated was the best thing I've done for myself in my life. It was a relatively easy diagnosis, I snored like a freight train, had that awful 'hang' in the snore when I just didn't breath, and was constantly falling asleep during the day. Took me years to get it looked at though :(

      So, I guess ... as well as seeing a psychologist ... see if you can get a referal to a sleep specialist and have a sleep study done.
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      2kellen2 wrote:

      You poor thing there is nothing worse than lying in bed trying to go to sleep & then that becomes a habit to wake up. It is a good idea to use the rowing machine when you wake up with the hope that it will tire you & hopefully break the habit of waking up. And make your subconscious realise that if you wake you will be punished by the rowing machine. Do you think you are doing enough exercise through the day to tire yourself out for bed & I suppose you have tried the hot milk - restful music & general relaxing wind down before bed. Don't have any caffeine from early afternoon. Good luck with BT & the physiologist.


      No, I know I have not been doing enough exercise to be tired. I am setting up my own business from home and I have been spending most days sitting at the computer trying to get the website finished.

      I have started the walking with my dog and the row machine. I am trying to make a habbit of jumping on the row machine several times through the day. I had glandular fever and it really buggered me up. So hopefully the new habbit of movement will help!

      And yes I have a habbit of having a cuppa tea after dinner with hubby. I will stop that and have some herbal tea I have un the cupboard instead.

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      Sherrie wrote:

      Have you ever tried magnesium and Vitamin B5 supps to see if they help at all?

      Another thing is some people find they get insomnia on low carb, I don't see it so much here but I used to on US sites. Back many years ago when I used to check Dr Eades (Author of Protein Power) blog every now and again and I read him give advice to take a teaspoon of honey just before bed. Apparently that little carb hit helps with the initial falling asleep.


      No I have not tried magnesium and Vitamin B5 supps. Good idea! Will look into that.

      I have just started BT today is day 3 so it is nothing to do with the low carb diet. (and I have already lost 2.4 kgs!)

      I think part of the problem is my mind is so active, I have sooooo much going on.

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      Morte wrote:

      Is it that you can't get to sleep? Or that you fall asleep, then wake up?

      I can recommend some aromatherapy assistance for the first (and second) ... but if it's the second, you might want to look at why.

      I suffer from chronic sleep apnea. Getting that treated was the best thing I've done for myself in my life. It was a relatively easy diagnosis, I snored like a freight train, had that awful 'hang' in the snore when I just didn't breath, and was constantly falling asleep during the day. Took me years to get it looked at though :(

      So, I guess ... as well as seeing a psychologist ... see if you can get a referal to a sleep specialist and have a sleep study done.


      Yeah my mother and grandmother have sleep apnea. Thankfully once I am asleep I am ok and I wake up refreshed not still tired.

      The problem is I lay there and can not drop off to sleep sometimes I am so tired that my eyes are burning but I can not drop off to sleep.

      I have had this trouble since I was a teen. I am 37 now.

      But I will talk to the psychologist about it and if she thinks it could be something that can be teasted for I am all in that!

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      scuba-goddess wrote:

      Yeah my mother and grandmother have sleep apnea. Thankfully once I am asleep I am ok and I wake up refreshed not still tired.

      The problem is I lay there and can not drop off to sleep sometimes I am so tired that my eyes are burning but I can not drop off to sleep.

      I have had this trouble since I was a teen. I am 37 now.

      But I will talk to the psychologist about it and if she thinks it could be something that can be teasted for I am all in that!

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      May I suggest trying aromatherapy then?

      A mixture of lavender, marjoram, valerian and vetiver ... 4 drops of each in 15ml of carrier oil, rubbed on your skin. Most people like to rub it on their feet, as vetiver has a very strong earthy scent.

      Valerian tea may also help.
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      Yep I realised your insomnia was unrelated to LC but don't be afraid to see if it helps, you could always take it off your carbs in the breakfast. One thing carbs do help with at night is serotonin production so perhaps that is the link. No idea if it will work but certainly worth a try. Don't believe in the whole "must have carbs in the morning only" because it is rubbish.



      scuba-goddess wrote:

      No I have not tried magnesium and Vitamin B5 supps. Good idea! Will look into that.

      I have just started BT today is day 3 so it is nothing to do with the low carb diet. (and I have already lost 2.4 kgs!)

      I think part of the problem is my mind is so active, I have sooooo much going on.

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    • Re: Insomnia and Body Trim

      Morte wrote:

      May I suggest trying aromatherapy then?

      A mixture of lavender, marjoram, valerian and vetiver ... 4 drops of each in 15ml of carrier oil, rubbed on your skin. Most people like to rub it on their feet, as vetiver has a very strong earthy scent.

      Valerian tea may also help.


      mmmmm this sounds lovely! Thanks!

      I am also going to get some accupuncture to help reconnect my body energies. I feel broken!

      Got a cuppa Camomile :)

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    • Re: Insomnia and Body Trim

      I can't make any suggestions, but I do know when I first did low carb my sleep was wors! However, on my no grains Primal regime - moderate protein, high fat, low carb (30-50) - I sleep very well indeed. I always have a cup of decaff with cream and a tiny bit of honey (8gm, worth 7 carbs) at bedtime - makes me nod right off. I do hope at least one of the suggestions here helps you, it must be pure Hell.
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      Analog6 wrote:

      I can't make any suggestions, but I do know when I first did low carb my sleep was wors! However, on my no grains Primal regime - moderate protein, high fat, low carb (30-50) - I sleep very well indeed. I always have a cup of decaff with cream and a tiny bit of honey (8gm, worth 7 carbs) at bedtime - makes me nod right off. I do hope at least one of the suggestions here helps you, it must be pure Hell.


      hmm that is an idea. decaf. I stopped drinking coffee when I started dating my husband. He hates the small and taste of coffee and I love kissing him more than coffee :) hehehe well I might get some and give it a go and see if he notices. We are an old married couple now (just had our 5th wedding ani) :D

      I did not think tea had that much caffine :confused: but maybe it does. Should google it I suppose.

      I am not sure if food / drink even has anything to do with it? But we will see I suppose. Last night I have camomile tea instead of regular tea and I did actually get off to sleep much easier. Still took a few hours but I was asleep around 1pm instead of 4 am as I have dont the last few nights :)

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      Analog6 wrote:

      I can't make any suggestions, but I do know when I first did low carb my sleep was wors! However, on my no grains Primal regime - moderate protein, high fat, low carb (30-50) - I sleep very well indeed. I always have a cup of decaff with cream and a tiny bit of honey (8gm, worth 7 carbs) at bedtime - makes me nod right off. I do hope at least one of the suggestions here helps you, it must be pure Hell.


      I forgot to say I will be having minimal grains for a while. I have had some troubles in the digestive system for the past 9 months until day one of the carb detox. This was the first time I have had relief from stomach swelling and hardening and pains throughout upper and lower abdomin.

      Today day 4 (first day on weight loss meals) and I had eggs on a slice of toast and after 20 mins it started hurting. :(

      So I will be using alternative carb options for a while!

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      Hi,
      You might want to give melatonin a try. When I first started shift work I had all sorts of sleeping issues and this was suggested. Your body natualy produces melatonin it's what makes you sleepy. Sometimes as in my case shift work the production goes hay wire. I would be wide awake after a shift but exhausted when I had to go back to work. It doesn't make you sleep but makes you tired enough to go to sleep. I found using it for a few weeks got me back into a sleep routine if that makes sense . I also found it didn't give me the sleeping pill hangover prescription meds did . You should be able to get it from the health food shop or a large chemist.